PHO vs PHA

[Thomas Stright]

While it sounds like you have a bad experience with some clandestine folks, in no way is what you are saying correct.

Does TGLoT recognize any Grand Lodges that are based in Houston?

 

[bupton52]

Does TGLoT recognize any Grand Lodges that are based in Houston?

They do not. Those other random Grand Lodges in Houston are also not Prince Hall Grand Lodges.


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[Thomas Stright]

So other than mistaken them for PHA they are clandestine... right?

 

[bupton52]

So other than mistaken them for PHA they are clandestine... right?

That is correct.


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[TonyT2020]

The PHO of yesterday is not the same one that operates today. The original was shut down and the one that operates now is doing so clandestinely. Everything from holding annual communication without quorum to self apoointed National Grand Masters.

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Wow, this is horrible. I didnt know that they were operating in that manner.

 

[TonyT2020]

If I don't see a Charter, I'm out....No questions asked...

Very true... a legitimate charter that a Grand Lodge will acknowledge.

 

[acjohnson53]

exactly, I ain't gon let the door hit me in the ass....

 

[Bro. Mbombo]

This is a very disappointing thread. Arguing opinions that lead to nothing but more division, I will continue to look to the east in my pursuit of faith, hope, and charity. I will love all my brothers who meet on the level and depart on the square. So Mote It Be.

 

[Glen Cook]

Problem I see is that most clandestine PHA lodges are operated for profit...

If I may, the confusion is in using the term PHA. There is only one PHA GL in Texas. There are others others using Prince Hall, but not Prince Hall Affiliated. Affiliated is the key (no pun intended, ‘cause it’s the other guys that use the key).

And yes, the others are clandestine to GL TX and PHA TX, and every other state GL amd PHA GL that use the term.

 

[Glen Cook]

This is a very disappointing thread. Arguing opinions that lead to nothing but more division, I will continue to look to the east in my pursuit of faith, hope, and charity. I will love all my brothers who meet on the level and depart on the square. So Mote It Be.

May I ask, does your ritual use the term “clandestine”?

 

[Ron Story]

Saw this Prince Hall Lodge on St. Helena, SC close to Beaufort.
First time I had seen the PHO abbreviation.

 

[Glen Cook]

Saw this Prince Hall Lodge on St. Helena, SC close to Beaufort.
First time I had seen the PHO abbreviation.

A demonstration of why saying “Prince Hall” can lead to confusion.

 

[Ron Story]

?. Why is saying Prince Hall confusion? Don't understand your thought process on that statement.

 

[Glen Cook]

?. Why is saying Prince Hall confusion? Don't understand your thought process on that statement.

Ok. Here ya go:

when I say “Prince Hall,” to what organisation am I referring?

 

[Bill Lins]

?. Why is saying Prince Hall confusion? Don't understand your thought process on that statement.

Our esteemed Bro. Cook answered that question in an earlier post: "There are others others using Prince Hall, but not Prince Hall Affiliated."

 

[Glen Cook]

Our esteemed Bro. Cook answered that question in an earlier post: "There are others others using Prince Hall, but not Prince Hall Affiliated."

Wait. Did you just say I was steamed?

 

[coachn]

Wait. Did you just say I was steamed?

No, it was his way of saying you're "smoking hot!"

 

[Brother JC]

Si, we esteem the tamales to make them hot.

 

[Glen Cook]

No, it was his way of saying you're "smoking hot!"

NOW, I’m worried.

 

[Bill Lins]

No, it was his way of saying you're "smoking hot!"

Sorry, I'm not that kind of guy. YMMV.