Brother Joe
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What do you call someone that was initiated as an EA but never completed their esoteric work? I've met several people like this.
I'm sorry for the ambiguity of the question. What I was referring to are brothers that are initiated and never advance further due to their own desire or lack thereof. As far as I know, in Texas EA and FC do not pay dues. So they're never suspended for non payment. But they do not desire to continue their journey.
To my knowledge, that's a fee not Actual dues.
I'm sorry for the ambiguity of the question. What I was referring to are brothers that are initiated and never advance further due to their own desire or lack thereof. As far as I know, in Texas EA and FC do not pay dues. So they're never suspended for non payment. But they do not desire to continue their journey.
Brother , I know many who have not returned their EA catechism and move through the degrees . I have heard all the excuses but none hold water with me . They claim they are to busy to study but have time to watch football , go fishing , hunting etc; etc; so they have time to take a couple of hours (in total) a week to study .
When we have new EAs , I give them my card , I tell them I am here to help them study when and where ever they wish . I give them every opportunity to work with us but I am not going to beg them .
What I was referring to are brothers that are initiated and never advance further due to their own desire or lack thereof. As far as I know, in Texas EA and FC do not pay dues. So they're never suspended for non payment. But they do not desire to continue their journey.
I remember in my lodge in Texas, after becoming an EA I had 9 mo to a year to finish the work. If I was not able to finish the work then I would have to go back through the process from the beginning. Being considered new all over again. <snip> in Texas, if one was an EA for years without completing the work, I believe the GL would require them to start again
but I would think that as long as there is some communication going on, the lodge would work with you.
Actually, EAs have 12 months to learn & turn in their work. If they "go out of time", as it is called, they are still entitled to receive instruction & turn in their work whenever they are ready. Once they have done so, they must petition for advancement & be investigated as to what has happened since they were initiated. The purpose of this is to ensure that the EA has done nothing in the meantime (commit a felony, etc.) that would disqualify them from the Fraternity. Once their petition is approved, they receive the FC degree & begin studying the FC work. They do not actually have to "start over", as it were. FCs also have 12 months to learn & turn in their work. The same procedure as outlined above also applies should they go "out of time".
Absolutely.
I was told in Texas it was 1 year ea 3 months fc and 2 months mm.