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Should Codebooks Be Allowed
- Thread starter Blake Bowden
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easy answer for me. it's a crutch, through and through. the ritual in "King Solomon's and His Followers" is 24 (date?) years old. If you're going to use it, you're only going to mess yourself up anyway...
if you really want it, you'll probably have one regardless of the rules. might as well have them say "no" so as to not encourage it.
if you really want it, you'll probably have one regardless of the rules. might as well have them say "no" so as to not encourage it.
do you mind if i ask if you practice with it, use it when needed while teaching a candidate... how is it used?
practice by myself, my mentor is usually very handy and resoursful but he is 91 yrs young and I do not call him after 7pm; I only pull it out as a last resort usually if I restart froma point I know I can remember what I thought I had forgot but sometime as hard as I try I cannot remeber and thats when I will refer to the cypher book.
jonesvilletexas
Premium Member
It is the first step to doing away with the work completely.
B
Brother Secretary
Guest
I disagree. If you didn't have a working knowledge of the work to begin with, it wouldn't be much help. All the old guys have them, and they've had them for years. Masonry is doing just fine in jurisdictions where code books have been legal for years.
jonesvilletexas
Premium Member
This could be debated for every, the bottom line is if you won’t it you will have it.
But here is something to think about! When and who will rewrite the obligation we took at the altar?
But here is something to think about! When and who will rewrite the obligation we took at the altar?
B
Brother Secretary
Guest
I guess the answers would be:
the committee on work
whenever they feel like it
the committee on work
whenever they feel like it
Even though I still haven't ordered one, I think they should be allowed. Do you actually think if the GL changes it's mind, all those MM, WM, DDGMs, and every other title will run home and burn their copy..nah. I think in a way it maintains consistency.
Actually the Grand Lodge is the only body tha can approve changes to the wording of the obligation and it has to be presented at GL and voted on so it would not be easy to do. Com. on Work can only change the foot work. So if you are a member of GL then you would be responsible for rewritting any aprt of the work.
Texas_Justice85
Registered User
only as a memory guide
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cpmorgan2
Guest
Someone made a comment that it had somewhere around 15 or 17 mistakes in it. If that be the case, I'd rather make those 15 or 17 mistakes and be corrected on them, than all 5000+ words being inaccurate and making those mistakes. 17 out of 5000 really isn't that bad. Now I know the work, you have to know the work to understand the codebook. When I see a mistake I over look it, I merely use it as a mind refresher.
luftx
Premium Member
I just use mine as a refresher also. When I'm working, I usually travel during the week, and just am tired and don't have time to make it to lodges where I'm at, so I just use it to try to get my lame brain to work right when I can't think of whatever I'm trying to review.
A good friend of mine here, who hold an A Certificate and really knows the work, said that there are three mistakes in the current version. I've only found one, but then what do I know.
Robert
J
JEbeling
Guest
Don't see it being sold on the street... ! the only ones using it are masons.. !
Its always handy to run over something before a degree... !
Why would a non-mason want it.. ! he can't read it.. ! doesn't understand it.. ! wouldn't know the floorwork to go with it.. !
Its always handy to run over something before a degree... !
Why would a non-mason want it.. ! he can't read it.. ! doesn't understand it.. ! wouldn't know the floorwork to go with it.. !
As I've stated before and have made no secret about, I've had one for years and have found it to be beneficial in that when traveling in our lives as we sometimes do, we need a little help in keeping up with our work. The cipher is only a tool, not a replacement.
As a peace officer I can tell you first hand that if you do not practice what you have learned you WILL NOT retain it. If you are not in a position to attend lodge for awhile then you will not retain the work.
I'm just saying.........
As a peace officer I can tell you first hand that if you do not practice what you have learned you WILL NOT retain it. If you are not in a position to attend lodge for awhile then you will not retain the work.
I'm just saying.........