Say a member of the Grand Lodge of Texas A.F. & A.M. wants to visit a Prince Hall Lodge in Texas, which is under the jurisdiction of the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Texas, what would they need to do?
That's very clunky....I'll email the packet to you. Basically, the Brother(s) who wish to visit send an application to their Grand Secretary, who forwards it to the other Grand Secretary, who forwards it to the Lodge to be visited. They vote upon the application at a stated meeting, and send the app, either approved or disapproved, back to their GS, who sends it to the other GS, who sends it back to the applicant(s).
I'm not sure who is to blame for it, but I don't think the word "clunky" is nearly strong enough to describe our convoluted procedure. Of course, my opinion plus about $2.00 will get you a cup of coffee @ most places around here.
Not being a texas mason I cant say for sure but id bet that process came from the PH side. I say this because i have a buddy whose PH and I invited him to my Lodge and he told me he would have to contact his worshipful master and make sure it was okay that he visited another Lodge. Even though he knows that New Mexico recognizes New York Prince Hall and vice versa. I could be Way Off the Mark though and it could be the Grand Lodge of Texas who wanted that extra four steps
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Prince Hall Masons (Texas & Maryland) only- hence, my aggravation. IMHO, all Masons visiting from other recognized jurisdictions should be treated equally, but remember what I posted earlier about coffee.So, there's the question Bill, does the procedure apply to all Masons visiting from a foreign GL - or just to Texan Prince Hall Freemasons ?
I agree... you would have to think it is an effort to keep the two groups apart.. which is probably nothing to do with "race" and all about GLs preserving their power... yes, I am a remember of our GL - but does not mean I trust them to be wise or just .. mind you, when I read of some of the shenanigans which go on on GLs in the States, espe what GMs get up (Haas etc) I realise how lucky I am to be part of UGLV. The irony is, the better you now the other local jurisdiction, the better you are proving them...Prince Hall Masons (Texas & Maryland) only- hence, my aggravation. IMHO, all Masons visiting from other recognized jurisdictions should be treated equally, but remember what I posted earlier about coffee.
Since you guys recognize texas PH do you also recognize all other PH that have local recognition? And if so lets say a NM PHA from Las Cruces wants to vist a el paso lodge....he doesnt have to go through all that shenanigans?Prince Hall Masons (Texas & Maryland) only- hence, my aggravation. IMHO, all Masons visiting from other recognized jurisdictions should be treated equally, but remember what I posted earlier about coffee.
As I stated earlier, to date GLoTX ONLY recognizes the PHGLs of Texas & Maryland. Until & unless the PHGL of NM applies for & receives recognition from GLoTX, their members may NOT visit our Lodges. Should they become recognized and our GL maintains the same policy it has with the currently-recognized PHGLs, their members WILL have to follow the same procedure for visitation.
Oh ok...i thought you were saying that only texas and MD pha had to do that...not that they were the only ones you recognized...As I stated earlier, to date GLoTX ONLY recognizes the PHGLs of Texas & Maryland. Until & unless the PHGL of NM applies for & receives recognition from GLoTX, their members may NOT visit our Lodges. Should they become recognized and our GL maintains the same policy it has with the currently-recognized PHGLs, their members WILL have to follow the same procedure for visitation.
You know, no one has ever said if we'd have to do that stuff for a visit to a Grand Lodge- the paperwork only refers to visiting a blue Lodge.It's probably much easier to visit the PHA grand lodge in Maryland. @Bill_Lins77488 Or is it the same process, Brother Bill?
Loop hole ? take lots of pictures and lots of brothers !You know, no one has ever said if we'd have to do that stuff for a visit to a Grand Lodge- the paperwork only refers to visiting a blue Lodge.
All that needs to be done now is to bring your current dues card and you should be good to go. This goes for both GLofTX and MWPHGLoTX. IMO this is how it should be across the US but one small victory at a timeSince inter-visitation is now permitted is there a process that must be followed?
What we have been told is that we are to directly contact the Lodge we wish to visit instead of going through Grand Lodges.Since inter-visitation is now permitted is there a process that must be followed?
What we have been told is that we are to directly contact the Lodge we wish to visit instead of going through Grand Lodges.