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Hello from a new EA
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Traveling Man 1775
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Yes brother boaz,I have read article 334... LOL. But in the craft you should not call yourself a Mason until you have been raised. The young brother is still a candidate.
Timothy Fleischer
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Brother Dave
Do you have the GRand Lodge Laws in electronic format? If so, can you share it? I have looked online for the Laws of Texas in an electronic media with no luck.
Tim in Salado
Do you have the GRand Lodge Laws in electronic format? If so, can you share it? I have looked online for the Laws of Texas in an electronic media with no luck.
Tim in Salado
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If I remember correctly, the politically correct term is an Entered Apprentice "Mason". I don't have the law book in front of me while at work but I'm pretty sure he is considered a brother after the EA degree.
M
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Guest
In the State of Texas, yes, EA's have a lesser role than in other states. After the obligation you are spoken to as Brother, in which my opinion I feel at that time the candidate is now a Brother, he's now a Mason. I'm not sure if in the FC the brother is approached as candidate, but that would mean candidate for the degree of FC, not for the EA since he's already an Entered Apprentice Mason.
blackbeard
Registered User
although referred to as a candidate, it is, as already mentioned, a candidate for that degree...but a brother nonetheless.. in my jurisdiction ea's and fc's have different rights and privileges than master masons..but they ARE brothers..just sayin..
Traveling Man 1775
Registered User
Ok..this is directed to only Master Masons & above. Everybody think back to that grand night when you were raised from a FC to a Master Mason..What were the words of the W.M.??? I'm a P.H. Mason under North Carolina jurisdiction,the laws maybe different but the word is still the same. The W.M. said " here is a duly initiated FC canidate wishing to to be raised to the degree of Master Mason" or something along those lines..Until you are raised you a not a Mason! Does it really make since to give all the rights & privileges of a Master Mason to someone that hasn't been raised? The young man has to be duly & well qualified right? He has to be tried,never denied & be ready to be tried again!!! Those aren't just cute slogans. It's the way of our craft! But to each their own. What ever man shows that he ready to obtain this glorious privilege,& is then raised to Master Mason...you are a brother to me!!!!! So Mote It Be.
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Dear Brother, I believe you are missing the point here. We are all in agreement that a newly initiated Entered Apprentice or Fellowcraft Mason is not to recieve all the lights in Masonry, they are not to have all the rights and privildges in the lodges as a master, but I find it bad taste to say he simply is not a Brother. However, I find this to be not the place to discuss such a topic. This is a welcome thread for a new Brother. I ask that the only post regarding this discussion in this thread be that of a law that pertains to this matter within the Grand Lodge of Texas, if there is one. I will make a new thread in the Discussion forums for the debate/discussion. Thank you gentlemen.
tom268
Registered User
Well, that is not so general. It depends on the jurisdiction, you are in. In mine, you are called a brother and a mason in the initiation ritual.
Dave in Waco
Premium Member
And that is how it is in Texas as well. The new brother will learn that in his EA work. Now in Texas, although a man is a Mason and a called a brother at EA, he is not technically a member of the lodge until he has been raised.
As for the confusion over the term "candidate", they are called candidate during the ceremonies because at that time they are a candidate to receive the degree of that ceremony they are taking part. In other words an EA going through their FC ceremony, is a FC candidate, but he is still a mason.
Ben Rodriguez
Registered User
It feels quite hostile not to recognize an EA brother as such. But then again, different jurisdictions and regulations. Rest assured, out here in TX you are a brother as soon as you take that obligation and begin working towards the next degree!
relapse98
Registered User
What I do to remember the work is go over it time and time again with my instructor. Then I'll say it all again to myself on the way home. Then when I take my daily walks, I go over it. Its worked out well for me so far. Be careful not to start adding words or changing things around, those take forever to unlearn. Mouth to ear is hard at first, but it eventually clicks. Go to as many EA degrees as you can (and hope that the person doing the degree and lecture are good at it). I found that watching it again helped solidify it.
QPZIL
Premium Member
The best advice my coach gave to me is to learn the first degree work inside and out, backwards and forwards. Knowing it well may help you in the future 
It's hard to start out with, sure - but just like with the degree rituals themselves, remember that every single brother you see in your lodge has gone through the exact same thing.
It's hard to start out with, sure - but just like with the degree rituals themselves, remember that every single brother you see in your lodge has gone through the exact same thing.