Freemasons role in religious wars

[DIllon Nauta]

i'm a big prospect that is trying to become more educated in the history of Masonry. I try to see things through a zen lens. The beginning of my question is well-started with the Knights Templar and the Crusades. Was it a masonic intention to place christianity over other religions?

 

[coachn]

i'm a big prospect that is trying to become more educated in the history of Masonry. I try to see things through a zen lens. The beginning of my question is well-started with the Knights Templar and the Crusades. Was it a masonic intention to place christianity over other religions?

Although Freemasonic Morality plays spotlight a variety of themes, such as Stonecraft, Templars, etc., it is wise not to confuse the lore of these plays with actual history. These plays are not history, even though they borrow heavily from historic characters and eras.

Freemasonic Grand Lodge Masonry started around 1717 and it borrowed from a whole host of different themes to construct its ever increasing demand for role playing all for a moral purpose - to make good men better. When you start believing the lore is history, you've gotten lost in the metaphor.

As this relates to your question: Freemasonry in the USA and at the Blue Lodge level favors no one faith. At other levels and in other countries is a different bag o' worms.

 

[Elexir]

i'm a big prospect that is trying to become more educated in the history of Masonry. I try to see things through a zen lens. The beginning of my question is well-started with the Knights Templar and the Crusades. Was it a masonic intention to place christianity over other religions?

The knights templar has nothing to do with freemasonry, no one has yet proven that there is a historical connection.

 

[LK600]

Was it a masonic intention to place Christianity over other religions?

I would answer by making a change to the question. It was very much the intention of the Knights Templar to place Christianity over other religions, and to guard the road. No accepted connection has been found to date linking Freemasonry with the KT. Now if you want to talk Egypt...

 

[Brother JC]

The KT protected all pilgrims, not just Christians (originally). It wasn’t until the later crusades that they became essentially mercenaries for the church.

 

[DIllon Nauta]

Thank you all so much.

 

[DIllon Nauta]

When you start believing the lore is history, you've gotten lost in the metaphor.

i don't know if it's silly for me to think this way but i'm trying to see if freemasonry aligns with the change i want to put forth to the world. bettering mankind is certainly up for interpretation but in a broad view i wouldn't want to see my brothers supporting the U.S in propping up regime's like in Israel.
In the weeds but thank you for the output.

 

[DIllon Nauta]

I know there is a lot of judaic symbolism used, is there any importance to the masons that Israel represents a christian faith over muslim?

 

[Glen Cook]

i don't know if it's silly for me to think this way but i'm trying to see if freemasonry aligns with the change i want to put forth to the world. bettering mankind is certainly up for interpretation but in a broad view i wouldn't want to see my brothers supporting the U.S in propping up regime's like in Israel.
In the weeds but thank you for the output.

We do not discuss politics in lodge. Like most organizations, there a variety of views.

 

[Elexir]

I know there is a lot of judaic symbolism used, is there any importance to the masons that Israel represents a christian faith over muslim?

Dont take anything in freemasonry litteral.
Freemasonry is based on allegories and ledgends wich serves to teach lessons on morality and life.

 

[Elexir]

The first masonic grandlodge was created in 1717 in England and there existed lodges hundreds of years prior to that.
Israel was created 1947-48.

So based on facts there is no connection.

 

[Warrior1256]

The KT protected all pilgrims, not just Christians (originally). It wasn’t until the later crusades that they became essentially mercenaries for the church.

Interesting!

 

[Elexir]

Intressting fact.
During a cease-fire between the muslims and catholics both sides started going after the orthodox.

 

[Winter]

... but in a broad view i wouldn't want to see my brothers supporting the U.S in propping up regime's like in Israel.

Start by realizing that Freemasons don't take any side in politics nor do we have any global agenda regarding any national policy. But I suggest that if you have any issues with Israel that you consider that Freemasonry is strong in that country and serves as a wonderful example where Christians, Muslims, and Jews regularly come together in harmony.

 

[CLewey44]

I'm just trying to figure out what a 'big prospect' is. I'm very sick of these anti-Semitic allusions btw. Getting old...

 

[Winter]

I'm just trying to figure out what a 'big prospect' is. I'm very sick of these anti-Semitic allusions btw. Getting old...

There do seem to be more of them finding their way here.

 

[dfreybur]

I know there is a lot of judaic symbolism used

Our degrees draw from events in the Old Testament. Members of other faiths need to be secure enough in their faith to not be bothered by learning lessons from some other religion. Based on your posts you are not currently secure enough in your own faith to be able to handle that. You are not ready to join our assemblies for this reason.

is there any importance to the masons that Israel represents a christian faith over muslim?

Grand lodge Masonry was founded in 1717. By 1750 we no longer favored any one religion. Being open to members of every religion is one of our core teachings. You have been told this again and again but you still keep asking the same questions. Unfortunately that means you are acting like a troll so I will enter you on my ignore list. As we teach the moral and social virtues this is an additional reason why you are not ready to join our assemblies.

 

[coachn]

I'm just trying to figure out what a 'big prospect' is. ...

Good thing "huge" was not used. It might become a problem during the 3rd.

 

[CLewey44]

Good thing "huge" was not used. It might become a problem during the 3rd.

Oh for sure...call in the reinforcements!

 

[LK600]

but in a broad view i wouldn't want to see my brothers supporting the U.S in propping up regime's like in Israel.

Your view on Israel is your own. You are allowed to hold the personal view that Israel is a propped up regime. Other Brothers will hold completely different views. We do not discuss politics as Mason's, nor do we discuss religion in any form that would be considered offensive. If you can accept that, then you will be fine. If you can not, Freemasonry will not be for you. You check your religious and political opinions at the door.

is there any importance to the masons that Israel represents a christian faith over muslim?

Considering both Christian and Muslim faiths have both sprung from Judaic teachings / backgrounds... I wouldn't think so. Freemasons have many Christian Brothers, Muslim Brothers, Jewish Brothers, and also Odenists, Wicken, Deists, Mithra... the list goes on and on. Opinions on these subjects are checked at the door. Believe what you want, but understand every other Brother can believe what they want as well (with the exception of Atheism).

I'm a big prospect

You may be a great guy. You may be famous, or rich, or influential. What you are is the same as any other person looking into Freemasonry, who if applying and found acceptable, will become a Brother no better or worse than any other. We are equals.