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Regarding PHA members

MightyMouse

MightyMouse

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Well written Towerbuilder7...very well written.


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Mason653

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Nat Geo 357 said:
Another question I have been blessed to travel around the world and attend several Lodges and see many ceremonies. Who has the right or the knowledge to declare someone clandestine? Mason the measure of the man. /G\ Once the simple question is asked. Are you off or from? that normally ends all rhetoric. I have a very good friend who took the so called normal and recognized path. Then he was sent overseas and went to another body that some would consider clandestine. But the funny thing is his Masonic knowledge bloomed and progressed to great levels. So that's when I asked the question is the word Clandestine just a another way to promote Masonic Racism? In reality I have text from the late 1800s and early 1900s stating PHA as Clandestine. So with that being said who really has the power or knowledge to put that term on a Masonic body.? One thing I have learned in my journey through life is that successful people and groups never wait for someone to give them the right to exist and grow.


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True! I agree!


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Mason653

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Voltaire is a Freemason and under the GOdF! Which is considered clandestine (however used to be regular and recognized at one time).

When I got my package from the grand lodge of my state about my interest in freemasonry (pre initiation) it had a list of deceased famous masons and Voltaire is listed. My grand lodge is regular. So why would a regular body list a clandestine mason as a mason if it were such a huge issue? Serious question.


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MarkR

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Mason653 said:
Voltaire is a Freemason and under the GOdF! Which is considered clandestine (however used to be regular and recognized at one time).

When I got my package from the grand lodge of my state about my interest in freemasonry (pre initiation) it had a list of deceased famous masons and Voltaire is listed. My grand lodge is regular. So why would a regular body list a clandestine mason as a mason if it were such a huge issue? Serious question.


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As you stated, the Grand Orient was recognized and entirely regular at the time of Voltaire. They are no longer either.
 
cool ron00

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AnthonyPomilia357 said:
I've recently met a Prince Hall Mason and he had no idea of any password, word for a grip, signs, or due guards. However, I was sure that he was definitely legit. But anyways, I know that the teachings of PHA are slightly different, and what I am wondering is if Prince Hall Masons have such signs and due guards. Anybody know?

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lourocks

lourocks

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Here in nys there is no diffrence between my lodge and pha as far as sighns and passwords go im attending a,ea degree on friday there as do the pha masons visit with us we have a great relationship all this back and forth should stop its ruining the craft

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brother josh

brother josh

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In Kentucky we r not allowed to visit (BS) but we can call ph brothers and with more brothers like me coming into the order I hope we can change and be let to visit


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lourocks

lourocks

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Yea its so dumb its like segregation in my state its great i hope brother its gets straightened out because we loose out on meeting great brothers

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BroBook

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AnthonyPomilia357 said:
I've recently met a Prince Hall Mason and he had no idea of any password, word for a grip, signs, or due guards. However, I was sure that he was definitely legit. But anyways, I know that the teachings of PHA are slightly different, and what I am wondering is if Prince Hall Masons have such signs and due guards. Anybody know?

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I do not know how that could be he should at least had a letter or syllable something he was pulling your leg


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Had to edit out the e-mail address, sorry. Rules and all, y'know?

It may be an old post, or just spam. Try sending her a PM.
 
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Manuel A.

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I am PHA and he was pulling your leg he wasnt a brother we are taught the same I have visited both houses we recieve the same light

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Celidonious

Celidonious

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As an ancient craft there are certain things that can not be changed. We (PHA) have the same signs (although maybe a little difference) and words mainstream has. Look at it this way if if some states are visiting between MS and PHA these things he should have known would be need for that visitation.


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BroBook

BroBook

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dfreybur said:
There are ways to try a man on his Masonic membership without checking dues cards or exchanging modes of recognition. Just chat about what you've been doing at lodge. A cowan may have a fake dues card and may have learned the modes of recognition from an expose' book but there's no substitute for the simple reality of going to lodge events, complaining about what we complain about, praising what we praise, lamenting that we haven't been to lodge in X years and worrying about be rusty, you name it. A brother or cowan becomes obvious within a minute of chatting. Just switch to the weather or sports of whatever once you're sure. You'll be sure very early on.
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Yeah because I really don't think you can fake
The beautiful system of morality


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