Golden Dawn

[SeattleMason0613]

I am curious about the golden dawn I know very very little of it but have read the hermetica and kyballion and studied that way of thought and an very intrigued by it.

Is anyone a member or knows much about it?

Also not sure how to tell a traditional order from some modern day fan club.

 

[Brother_Steve]

I have thought about joining the Golden dawn, I know very very little of it but have read the hermetica and kyballion and studied that way of thought and an very intrigued by it.

Is anyone a member or knows much about it?

Also not sure how to tell a traditional order from some modern day fan club.

Never heard of them. All I could think of was Hans Gruber in Die Hard but that was Asian Dawn, not Golden Dawn!

 

[Zaden]

I know of at least 2 members of either the modern Golden Dawn or its offshoots that post here at times. The Cicero's seem to be the most legitimate group still operating under that name. Aleister Crowley's A.'.A.'. is one of the descendants as is B.O.T.A., the former itself having a few claimants to "authority", since Crowley was a poor administrator when it came to planning for his death.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/index.htm#gdawn has a couple of texts.
Crowley published most of their rituals in the Equinox, as did Israel Regardie in his Golden Dawn books.
Crowley's publication of them can be found here: http://www.the-equinox.org/

You will likely find more information about the GD on more "occult" boards than here, as its only connection to freemasonry, beyond style was that many if not most of its founders, and a number of its male members were Brothers.

 

[CLewey44]

I am curious about the golden dawn I know very very little of it but have read the hermetica and kyballion and studied that way of thought and an very intrigued by it.

Is anyone a member or knows much about it?

Also not sure how to tell a traditional order from some modern day fan club.

Hello there, a book by Chic and Sandra Cicero that is a good starting point would be Essential Golden Dawn. As Zaden said, the Ciceros are the most legit around these days. They are based out of FL but have Temples in most big cities. Brother Chic is a Freemason and a member of another esoteric group not unlike Golden Dawn, the SRICF, and one of highest, if not the highest, in the state of FL. The SRICF is an actual Masonic group and the SRICF being invitation only as the Cicero's GD is.

I would advise and say don't get some of the 'mail-in' memberships or 'Astral' initiatory groups confused with the Cicero's group as they seem to be a bit on the waste of time side of things. The Cicero's H.O.G.D. is the closest thing to a direct lineage to the original but still aren't direct. (descending) Chic Cicero from Israel Regardie from Crowley who did have ties to the original folks, specifically Samuel Macgregor Mathers. Regardie was not on the higher end of the 'rank structure'. I believe he was a 5=6, Adeptus Minor, which is actually somewhere in the middle. Crowley was also a 5=6 and he was more or less removed from the original society at one point. Not an expert here, but I've read on the subject some. Very similar to the SRICF (not AMORC) in regards to the invite only, T.O.L., Alchemy and Qabalah etc.

 

[Elexir]

From conversation with the owner of an esoteric book shop, much of the energy went out of GD derivatives about 30 years ago.

Of course the same could be said for Freemasonry.

The original GD was quite good. For example the testing of the candidate for Adeptus Minor (raising) included the candidate having to visualize the temple with all the officers in their regalia. This visualization was then inspected for accuracy. After a decade or so the GD had run out of fraters and sorors capable of experiencing the visualizations of others.

The death of the original GD was the infighting. In the end it ended up with atleast 2 splinter groups, so I wouldnt autmaticly say it was better.

There are still a lot of energy left in the current and effort is being made to make sure it survives.

 

[zacbrown]

I am curious about the golden dawn I know very very little of it but have read the hermetica and kyballion and studied that way of thought and an very intrigued by it.

Is anyone a member or knows much about it?

Also not sure how to tell a traditional order from some modern day fan club.

You might look into SRICF - it's an offshoot of Golden Dawn with a requirement of being a Trinitarian Christian Master Mason.

In most jurisdictions it's typically invite-only from my understanding. Presenting papers on esoteric matters is a good way to get members attentions.

 

[Elexir]

You might look into SRICF - it's an offshoot of Golden Dawn with a requirement of being a Trinitarian Christian Master Mason.

In most jurisdictions it's typically invite-only from my understanding. Presenting papers on esoteric matters is a good way to get members attentions.

Actuly SRICF is not an offshoot of the GD but rather of SRIA or SRIS and these orders existed before the GD, infact the founders of HOGD where SRIA members.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Rosicruciana

 

[zacbrown]

Actuly SRICF is not an offshoot of the GD but rather of SRIA or SRIS and these orders existed before the GD, infact the founders of HOGD where SRIA members.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Rosicruciana

I stand corrected. Memory must be faulty. Apologies for the confusion.

 

[CLewey44]

It happens Zac.