Levelhead
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I really, really hate that it has gotten to this point Brother. Is there anything any of us here can do to help?
I do appreciate it but nothing can be done.thank you!'
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I really, really hate that it has gotten to this point Brother. Is there anything any of us here can do to help?
That’s true, but it doesn’t allude to criticizing our brothers either. By the sounds of things and situation portrayed it seems that plenty of work is right there. We should seek harmony, but not at the expense of others. We are taught to contribute to the assistance of the troubled. I believe if it is worth talking about or asking for opinions, guidance or recommendations, it seems worth working through. Again, we may not like the current outcome but we joined something that is larger than ourselves and tainting our purpose with personal objections seems contradictory with our teachings. Virtue comes to mind as I’m typing.
Goomba,
Though I understand your perspective and that of many of the bothers on this thread, I guess my bullheadedness is getting the best of me. The title of the thread “Destructive SW inline for WM” clearly grabbed my attention, if for no other reason than to see the different responses this generated. I understand harmony is something that is not always possible and getting along with others is sometimes easier said than done. To say I have gotten along with everyone in the fraternity would be dishonest. To say I agreed with the outcome of all elections and whom have been emplaced within positions would also be untruthful.
I read the situation where a fellow lodge officer whom he had served with for least an entire term had basically slandered him, and supposedly cost him the opportunity to move onto SW. The problem I have with this entire post, is the very thing that he was upset about happening to him he is doing the same. To criticize your brother or anyone who does not have the ability or opportunity to defend themselves is bad business. I realize the challenges when your passionate for your Lodge and the effort you have put into it and things seem dire.
Maybe I’m too sensitive with the situation and allowing it to bother me because of the lack of rhetoric. Maybe it’s the airing of a Lodge’s dirty laundry or it could be a that a MM is bashing one of our own in an open post. I’ve enjoyed the many responses that I have read and can only hope for the repair of the confusion in their craft.
In Kentucky if you demit to reapply you have to start all over again. You have to petition the lodge, meet with an investigation committee and then be voted on.For those GL's who don't have the concept of renunciation it goes beyond a demit. It means you reject the fundamentals of Freemasonry and wish your name to be stricken form the roles as if you were never made a Freemason. No lodge can bring you back into the fraternity. Only grand lodge action can reverse renunciation and well it isn't done often.
But they don't have to take the degrees again do they? As what you stated is common practice as far as i know, minus having to take the degrees overIn Kentucky if you demit to reapply you have to start all over again. You have to petition the lodge, meet with an investigation committee and then be voted on.
No, to my knowledge they do not have to re-take the degrees.But they don't have to take the degrees again do they?
I would think that if you are current in your dues and your home lodge secretary refused to acknowledge this that you could contact the Grand Lodge to intervene on this matter. I believe that you would be entitled to this letter if your dues are, indeed, current.In our jurisdiction, to move or join another lodge would require a letter or certificate of good standing from your home lodge. I believe this is just to say you are current on your dues but would your home lodge, given the circumstances, give such a letter?
It is also to say that you are not laboring under charges- hence "good standing".In our jurisdiction, to move or join another lodge would require a letter or certificate of good standing from your home lodge. I believe this is just to say you are current on your dues
I have had issues with my lodge , the lying, back stabbing, the talking behind brothers backs, running people off. I recently was asked by a lodge I visit often and have become a honorary member of, to demit from my lodge and join theirs. I enjoy the friendship there and encouraged to participate as often as I can. I need to wrap up a couple more things before leaving my lodge, but for now, I tell everyone I'm a freelance mason. Lol.
I tell everyone I'm a freelance mason. Lol.
Lol, cool term.Im freelance too.. lol.
Yes, it is.Its sad how the politics and wanting to be a so called "higher up" change people..
This is the way that I took it to mean in this instance.To me Freelance means pay my dues, live life by my obligations and dont attend lodge or deal with pilotics and backstabbers .
I get it now. You're a financially active Mason but otherwise a disengaged member.To me Freelance means pay my dues, live life by my obligations and dont attend lodge or deal with pilotics and backstabbers .
Ill sit at home and be a good mason.
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Like 80% of the "average" lodges in the US.I get it now. You're a financially active Mason but otherwise a disengaged member.