Ripcord22A
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It doesn't. It's just unfounded and immature bovine output.And how does that answer my question?
Real or fiction, the question remains why is the story told how it is....
Precisely.Allegories are not about real people but they do teach truths about human nature.
If Freemasonry were a science we would be able to test this proposition - for example, by using the working tools in a moral sense.
You should work on that trivial stuff dude. It is not a science. It is theater and art. There is no "if".If Freemasonry were a science we would be able to test this proposition - for example, by using the working tools in a moral sense.
I know at least 5 brethren that can use some of the "working tools" in a "moral" sense to measure who is true to what.
Which is literal and which symbolic is very often a problem for the speculative Freemason.
How do we know that it is allegory rather than an actual event reformulated for a Masonic context?
That is the question to ask.How do we know that it is allegory...
Because surrounding literature, Freemasonic references-terms-allusions, common sense and simple sanity tells us that it is allegory, which by its very nature may use actual events and people, but is itself not actual events or people....rather than an actual event reformulated for a Masonic context?
Studying, learning and applying the Trivium eliminates such speculative nonsense and is a good indicator that people putting such nonsense forth are in a fantasy land.
The problem is that morality can not be messured objectivly as morals change with the times.
So we should be obsessed with the moral, not the literal since the literal does not exist.However, there's a cross section of individuals who get caught up with, who get swept away and who promote fantasy in relation to Freemasonic Ritual and Lore. They are easily spotted due to their lack of Trivial training along with the nonsense put forth.
No. We should pursue what our hearts ask of us, but only after we have done the Apprentice Work to bring Order to Chaos of the heart so we don't pursue things that are nonsense, superfluous or harmful.So we should be obsessed with the moral, not the literal since the literal does not exist.
Good advice coachn, thanks. I'm here to learn.No. We should pursue what our hearts ask of us, but only after we have done the Apprentice Work to bring Order to Chaos of the heart so we don't pursue things that are nonsense, superfluous or harmful.
You can tell by a man's pursuits the Work he has done and the Work he has yet to do.
Perhaps this is the result of doing the work, not the work itself.To strenghten the virtues and weaken the vices.
Just to follow up, and not to disagree at all, does one focus on the "Work to bring Order to Chaos of the heart" or is their another type of, or focus to, our work which brings this about as a side benefit?No. We should pursue what our hearts ask of us, but only after we have done the Apprentice Work to bring Order to Chaos of the heart so we don't pursue things that are nonsense, superfluous or harmful.
You can tell by a man's pursuits the Work he has done and the Work he has yet to do.
Perhaps this is the result of doing the work, not the work itself.
True!I would not call it result, rather a goal.
You can always aim but in the end only (T)GATOU can decide if you achived it.
Not too clear as to what you are asking here.Just to follow up, and not to disagree at all, does one focus on the "Work to bring Order to Chaos of the heart" or is their another type of, or focus to, our work which brings this about as a side benefit?
What do u mean by Trivial work @coachn?Once again, when you do the Trivial Work, . [/I]
Trivial work: referring to the Trivium - Grammar, Logic & Rhetoric. The study is crucial to understanding allegory.
I learn something new almost every day on this forum.Trivial work: referring to the Trivium - Grammar, Logic & Rhetoric. The study is crucial to understanding allegory.