In other words, had you never come to Texas, it is unlikely that you would ever have seen a Lodge opened in the correct manner.
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Station and Place Questions
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Brother_Steve
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Think of the opening. The WM, SW and JW are stationed at cardinal directions. E, W and S
The deacons, secretary and treasurer are all referenced from a station.
The JD place in the lodge: <Referenced from a station>
The SD place in the lodge: <Referenced from a station>
The Secretary's place in the lodge: <Referenced from a station>
Then the WM asks the T about the JW station. However, it is interesting to note that no one is referenced to the right or left of that station. Sorry stewards....
The deacons, secretary and treasurer are all referenced from a station.
The JD place in the lodge: <Referenced from a station>
The SD place in the lodge: <Referenced from a station>
The Secretary's place in the lodge: <Referenced from a station>
Then the WM asks the T about the JW station. However, it is interesting to note that no one is referenced to the right or left of that station. Sorry stewards....
Brother_Steve
Premium Member
interesting. We have the tiler enter the lodge and approach the East. He is asked where his place is. He answers <blah blah> He is then asked what his duty is. He mentions something about cowans and such. The WM then tells him to receive something and to be in discharge of his duty.
Bloke
Premium Member
The SD is "at or near the right of the WM" - all other officers are fixed. The Tyler, Inner Guard, SD & JD all have a "situation in the lodge" while the JW SW and WM have a "place in the lodge". The sec nor any other office is mentioned. The JW reports on the "situation of the tyler"who remains outside..
All trivia I guess
Ripcord22A
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Interesting..in both my jurisdictions the WM asks the JD what his 1st job is. He amswers to make sure its tyled.
Hes then told to do that. Then he tells the WM that it is and the WM asks HOW? And the JD answers with some stuff about MM and a sword/implement of his office then the WM asks the JD what the T duties are and the JD answers with some stuff about cowans.....
I love hearing about the differences jurisdiction to jurisdiction...@Brother_Steve where u from?
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Hes then told to do that. Then he tells the WM that it is and the WM asks HOW? And the JD answers with some stuff about MM and a sword/implement of his office then the WM asks the JD what the T duties are and the JD answers with some stuff about cowans.....
I love hearing about the differences jurisdiction to jurisdiction...@Brother_Steve where u from?
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Bloke
Premium Member
The JD carries all messages and communications of the WM from the SW to the JW.... the JW answers on behalf of the tyler that its the tylers job to see the lodge is properly tyled.
(edited to correct error in fact)
SD carries all messages and commands of the WM to the SW
JD carries all messages and communications of the WM from the Senior Warden to Junior Warden.
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Ripcord22A
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Hmm thats interesting...here the SD carries messages the messages from the WM and the JD carries messages from the SW
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Brother_Steve
Premium Member
New Jersey.
The JD is instructed to check the ... and, informs the WM and sits.
He is then ordered to request the tiler to enter the lodge. He approaches the east, does what I mentioned before and then exits. (Note: The JD tks h pl while this is all going on.)
Then we pick up where you are now when asked the first care of ... However, instead of repeating what has already been said by the tiler in lodge, the JD is directed to inform the tiler that the WM is about to open ... and direct him to tile accordingly.
Bloke
Premium Member
Sorry Jdmadsen - I typed incorrectly.
SD carries all messages and commands of the WM to the SW
JD carries all messages and communications of the WM from the Senior Warden to Junior Warden.
Brother_Steve
Premium Member
It's a good thing the WM, SW and JW speak directly to each other. Could you imagine if this was the literal case?
<WM> Bro. SD, Please inform the SW that ..... and he to the brethren that it may be ..... done.
<SD> Bro. SW, The Worship master has .... and he to the brethren that it may be.....
<SW> Bro JD, Inform the JW that ... blah blah blah
<JD> Bro JW, repeats...
<JW> Brethren, you have heard the order communicated by way of the west. Take ....
Bloke
Premium Member
Indeed ! Now... Junior Master of Ceremonies - what do you get up to in that job ?
Brother_Steve
Premium Member
The Jr. chair is all floor work and assisting the Sr MoC in the preparation of the candidate or brother for advancement.
Ripcord22A
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That is the job of the stewards in oregon and new mexico...we dont have a master of cermonies....jr or sr...we do have a Marshall
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Brother_Steve
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We have a marshal also. The SD leads the column and the Marshal physically guides the candidate.
Ripcord22A
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In Oregon the sd conducts the candidate. In NM the stewards do. The only thing the marshall does here in NM is lead our procession in to lodge. In OR he leads the GL official visit procession
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Bloke
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Thanks, here, the Director of Ceremonies leads the deacons around the lodge and the deacons escort candidates. Stewards here step in if a deacon is absent, but mainly attend to matters in the festive board, but are more than just "masonic waiters" because they should have an organizing and meeting and greeting role.