Initiation

[nobledean]

Even as an EA, you are neither naked nor clad when you first knock at the door...how would that work for ladies being initiated?

Are only women present at the initiation of a woman?


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Think past that


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[scw538]

Le Droit Humain recognises the following Masonic Orders (but is not reciprocally recognised by them as a regular Masonic Order):
United Grand Lodge of England
Grand Lodge of Scotland
Grand Lodge of Ireland



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[rebis]

Le Droit Humain recognises the following Masonic Orders (but is not reciprocally recognised by them as a regular Masonic Order):
United Grand Lodge of England
Grand Lodge of Scotland
Grand Lodge of Ireland

My Freemasonry

Maybe so...but recognition by Le Grand Orient De France....that's a pretty big deal.

Not just anybody can claim recognition by the G.O.F.



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[Roy_]

Then it is by that great plan u are where you are (even if I don't recognize your lodge) I must say I bet the MM is a little different when performed on a lady ? ????? Don't know how I would handle that one

Like nobledean I cannot comment on the master's rituals, just to enlighten you a little about the rest...

I can only imagine what my wife would do if ladies were present at our stated meetings...

That's why I brought my own No seriously, what do you do in your lodge that would offend your wife should you do that with a woman? On our initiation a male escorted my girlfriend on her journies. Then what?

I remember back when I was a school boy...there was no way I could pay attention in class if a pretty girl sat next to me.

Sorry, but that is a mighty duh. There can be numerous reasons to be distracted. Problems at home or work, forgot to bring money for the bag, there is not more distraction in the presence of a woman.

Even as an EA, you are neither naked nor clad when you first knock at the door...how would that work for ladies being initiated?

Are only women present at the initiation of a woman?

In our case, me and my girlfriend were initiated together. Consequentally both men and women were present. Nothing so exiting happened that I would have had a problem would my girlfriend have been initiated by herself. We were clothed in 'pilgrim's clothes' with the usual little exposures. Nothing wild. I doubt things get much wilder in your lodge.

Brother, if you don't mind sharing, please tell us what that is like.

Personally I think men and women complement eachother spiritually. The woman's perspective can be refeshingly different. Besides, the best point of this is that me and my girlfriend can discuss everything at home. No need for hushhush.

 

[Warrior1256]

I wish you the best in your journey whatever that may be.

 

[dfreybur]

Personally I think men and women complement each other spiritually.

This is why I seek a church group that I consider to be spiritual. Very subjective what that means and which group had it, but I know it when I see it. So for me the complement happens at church; the contrast happens at lodge.

The decision is up to every individual. I figure the relative population of jurisdictions says much about the relative popularity of decision but very little about the (insert vague judgmental sounding adverb here) of the decision. I have long since stopped worrying about one side claiming correctness in the decision and have gone with the herd specifically because I have traveled plenty for work and have relocated multiple times. The mixed gender lodges are too few and far apart for my pragmatic purposes and that allows me to dodge judgment issues. "That's my disclaimer and I'm sticking with it" to paraphrase the cliche'.

 

[Roy_]

I figure the relative population of jurisdictions says much about the relative popularity of decision

This is not entirely true. When you live in my country (Netherlands) and inquire about Freemasonry, you are quickly lead to the Grand Orient. The Grand Orient has the tendency to refer women to the Vita Feminea Textura, rather than one of the three comasonic orders that we have. Of course there is the case of not knowing and perhaps us comasonic organisations should reach out more. But we're with only a few hundred, against some 6000 regulars.

Now this of course supports your theory. Belgium then. 30% Of the Belgian Freemasons belong to Le Droit Humain and there are more mixed and one women-only order. Regular Freemasonry (the Regular Grandlodge Of Belgium) covers only 6,5% of all Belgian Freemasons.

Apparently, it makes a lot where you live. In Belgium there is a much bigger chance that you bump into a mixed lodge than in the USA.

In any case, the above does not talk about regular Masons changing organisations. Some regular countrymates do like to visit mixed lodges (unofficially of course), some do not. All good friends. If less fuss was made about that fact (a man kicked out because attending his wife's initiation into a mixed lodge for example), the world might just be a little better a place.

And for the rest, in most countries people can choose. I decided to attend a lodge 100 kilometers away that I can be member of with my girlfriend rather than one of the 4 regular lodges of my hometown.