"Glen. Its my understanding that the Templars practiced witchcraft.
And that in the above link I posted King James 1 , is debating on the lawfulness of witchcraft.
For good reason. And refused the Order of the Garter.
That the Order of the garter's motto is due to an association with the Templars.
And hence witchcraft.
That the knights of St John practice the same gnosticism as the Templars.
And that the freemasons are based on this same knowledge of conjuring of spirits.
As a genuine protestant I have come under attack by the powers that be in recent years in physical ways.
But have also had strange things happen to me that seem to be of a spiritual nature.
House became haunted so I had to buy a tent and sleep in the paddock .suffered total confusion in court over very simple arguments., which I easily resolved outside of court. Was attacked by an owl on 3 seperate occasions in a town which noone had ever been attacked by an owl. To name a few.
I don't know who was responsible, I don't assume freemasons were. Oddly enough.
But I certainly believe that witchcraft is practiced today. I don't have much choice but to believe it.
So when I say the same religion I am politely avoiding calling it the same Craft.
But since you argue sematics, I will simply call it what it is. ( And hope I don't get attacked by another owl for my trouble)
Mike, as I'm sure you are aware , quite often there are several false exoteric explanations offered to hide the truth, if men would like to keep the truth secret.
If there was no secret to hide then the official Order of the Garter website might be reliable and trustworthy.
But if there was a secret to hide then its unlikely to be reliable.
So what does that site really tell us?
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I'm inclined to agree. It looks as though, while many Emperors and kings have the Garter, it is bestowed via the UK. Specifically from the Templar's Crown
Temple Church, the Queen being the representative Grand Patroness with the responsibility of knighting.
Members:
The Templars and the Kings ran the empire for the pope. After the suppression of the Templars the Order of the Garter was founded to directly run kingdoms of the empire.[
1] And they were instrumental in later founding of Freemasonry, according to numerous researchers.[
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This quoted in argument on Wikipedia . There is a counter argument. Its debateable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Order_of_the_Garter
My personal belief is- the Order of the Garter used to be the Craft. There was a need for it then. There isn't now, as you have Knights of St John, or just freemasonry.
And the Queen is a Dame of St John anyhow.
Point being, I don't think freemasons run the world as a fraternity.
If you look beyond what they tell you. It points towards the kings of this earth.
Kings aren't fans of brotherhoods with peasants. They tend to be snobs.