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Widows Sons

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tomasball

Premium Member
rwmoore said:
Brother,
I received your PM but cannot respond due to not having posted enough times. Please send me an email address so that I can respond, I have some good information for you that I think will ease your mind.
Fraternally,
Roger
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Well, I sent my email a week ago, and no response. If he has some information, I would like to hear it.
 
owls84

owls84

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Premium Member
Why doesn't someone just send a request for a Grand Master's Decision on this? If it was rejected by the Grand Lodge body for recognition I am confused as to how it would be legal. I really don't know though.
 
LRG

LRG

Premium Member
It was rejected to a re-vote and from the way the story goes, it was passed and all the supporters left in celebration. Well, while they were gone, it came up for vote again and it got voted down. IMHO

I am more than certain that others with more knowledge than I,could shed further light
 
Bill Lins

Bill Lins

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Best I can tell, they're claiming that they do not restrict membership to Masons only, thus exempting them from Art. 225(a).

What happened to them @ Grand Lodge was that their request for recognition was approved, then Bro. Duncan Chapman moved for reconsideration, citing their "naked lady" logo. His motion was approved & the WS request was denied upon reconsideration.
 
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Crash

Registered User
Why all the questions, if they dont fall under the grand lodge. We cannot tell them they can't wear the sqaure and compass after all they are Master Mason and are granted all the right there within.
 
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tomasball

Premium Member
Crash said:
Why all the questions, if they dont fall under the grand lodge. We cannot tell them they can't wear the sqaure and compass after all they are Master Mason and are granted all the right there within.
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I don't really understand why you think they might not fall under the grand lodge. The Grand Lodge is the supreme authority for all masonic activity within the State of Texas. Shrine, Scottish Rite, York Rite, Grotto, Eastern Star, High Twelve...none can exist in Texas without the approval of the Grand Lodge of Texas.

I also don't understand why Bro. Moore says they don't require their members to be Masons, since both their state and national websites say it is a requirement.
 
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sadlerj01

Registered User
rhitland said:
Can anybody shed some light on this group? I had a brother ask me what they are all about but I was clueless.

http://www.widowssons.com/
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Having recently gone through my State's 'degree' (for lack of a better word), I can speak to this question with a good bit of personal insight and experience. The Widow's Sons must be approved by the Grand Lodge of their respective state. As such, they are supposed to be rooted and based in Freemasonry and abide by all the laws, rules, and regulations of the Grand Lodge. It would not be appropriate for me to go into detail here but if I had it to do all over again, from a Masonic perspective and knowing what I know now, I would have chosen another path (or Riding Association).
 
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Winter

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sadlerj01 said:
Having recently gone through my State's 'degree' (for lack of a better word), I can speak to this question with a good bit of personal insight and experience. The Widow's Sons must be approved by the Grand Lodge of their respective state. As such, they are supposed to be rooted and based in Freemasonry and abide by all the laws, rules, and regulations of the Grand Lodge. It would not be appropriate for me to go into detail here but if I had it to do all over again, from a Masonic perspective and knowing what I know now, I would have chosen another path (or Riding Association).
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Different chapters of WS have different flavors. Most are just friendly riding associations. I think some are wannabee 1%ers.
 
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sadlerj01

Registered User
I already bowed out. The disappointment came from being represented as a Masonic group but the reality was very different. No other Masonic riding groups in my area so I'll just ride with my people.
 
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