I found this pretty interesting.
I honestly don't know how to feel about it. I do not understand clandestine / irregular Lodges. It's a bit like playing dress up or make believe. While I have zero desire to recognize them, (obviously) they can do their own thing separate from us.
I have no concerns about what they are doing, i think they are simply doing themselves a disservice by saying they are Freemasons as the questions of authority to perform degrees will always be there.They aren’t “cashing in” on anything. Everything about them with the exception of gender is the same as any of our lodges. And they’ve been at it for quite some time. Don’t like it? Don’t join. Otherwise worry about your own Grand Lodge.
Devils advocate but I’m not sure that being a time immemorial lodge applys to clandestine orders..In 1717 of the 4 lodges, the oldest lodge was 50 years and the youngest was only 5 years old. To deal with the question of charters, these were all later declared to be time immemorial lodges and hence not requiring a charter. (I expect that caused a fair amount of amusement in the many other London lodges.)
These female GLs being more than a century old must surely, by male example, be permitted to declare themselves time immemorial and thereby free of having to demonstrate authority.
While I can easily appreciate the hostility towards "Bogus" Freemasonry, designed to make people part with their money or self promote an individual, I get surprised by some of occasional but very strong objections from Freemasons towards these two groups of Woman Freemasons in England.
If the genders had been switched here, we'd all be (probably) saying what a good job they did answering questions, and in the interviewers mind, she sees little difference between UGLE and OWF/HFAF and they face some of the same prejudices we do, they share in the same nature and are partakers of the same hope.
I think they have to call themselves "Freemasons" because they appear to operate exactly like a regular UGLE Lodge, but with gender swapped.
they should be able to operate their own lodge and GL