was raised in a Lodge in Germany and for all stated meeting, dress was coat and tie. If it was warm, brothers were allowed to remove their coats. For degree work, we all wore a tux. Many brothers came directly from work to lodge, but changed clothes at the lodge. Attending lodge here in the states has been somewhat of a suprise as thus far find brothers wearing a coat and tie has been the exception and not the norm. I have also noticed a lack of proper lodge etiquette, such as not standing when addressing the lodge or WM, brothers talking among thenselves during lodge, refering to brothers as guys or just people. The lax behavior on the part of the brothers and the casual atmosphere in lodge may be attributed to the way they dress. Just a thought.