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Representing the Craft

Do you think representing the craft as if it were a college frat has a negative or positive impact?


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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
I think outside the box so black clandy to me would be a reference to a black man who is clandestine I have never heard the term white clandy just something to think about and mainstream leads one to believe one is superior and the other inferior so I try to reframe from using that as well we must make the necessary corrections in order to move the order forward for the betterment of the craft

From what I have heard, it was a PHA guy that coined the term "mainstream". It was discussed by several PHA freemasons on Prince Hall Think Tank facebook page.
 

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
Brother that's the beauty of masonry we can come together discuss our differences gain a little knowledge and go away with a little more respect for one another at the end of the day where still going to be brothers

Exactly, the vast majority of lodges are basically white in my state and jurisdiction. It is what it is.
 

tldubb

Premium Member
From what I have heard, it was a PHA guy that coined the term "mainstream". It was discussed by several PHA freemasons on Prince Hall Think Tank facebook page.
First time I heard that a PHA mason came up with that term mainstream. Now I've heard "George Washington lodges" used instead of Mainstream..but in PA, the Brothers from GL of PA are Brothers' from 1 Broad as we say..they are a beautiful group brother's.


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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
First time I heard that a PHA mason came up with that term mainstream. Now I've heard "George Washington lodges" used instead of Mainstream..but in PA, the Brothers from GL of PA are Brothers' from 1 Broad as we say..they are a beautiful group brother's.


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I will have to see if I can find the posts. Can't think of the name they kept mentioning.
 

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
First time I heard that a PHA mason came up with that term mainstream. Now I've heard "George Washington lodges" used instead of Mainstream..but in PA, the Brothers from GL of PA are Brothers' from 1 Broad as we say..they are a beautiful group brother's.


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Found the posts. This is what was said: "Alan Roberts coined the term.. Walkes FORCED it down their throats.." They went on to say that the state GLs didn't necessarily like the term. The posts are still on FB. Not sure if they meant Allen Roberts who is not PHA but Walkes is definitely.
 
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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
Found the posts. This is what was said: "Alan Roberts coined the term.. Walkes FORCED it down their throats.." They went on to say that the state GLs didn't necessarily like the term. The posts are still on FB. Not sure if they meant Allen Roberts who is not PHA but Walkes is definitely.
A Facebook group dose not speak for Prince Hall masonry as a whole but I get your point just one of the downsides to social media groups
 

tldubb

Premium Member
My Grand Lodge historically Raised a good share PH GL's, so I'm not quite familiar with instances of that word "mainstream" being used by our GL. I may of used it once or twice on here but nothing from our leadership or communications using such. So, if it is offensive my most humble apologies to any brothers that I have offended. Peace & Harmony always.


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MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
A Facebook group dose not speak for Prince Hall masonry as a whole but I get your point just one of the downsides to social media groups

Maybe not but when it is called the Prince Hall Think Tank, it will to some degree.
 

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
My Grand Lodge historically Raised a good share PH GL's, so I'm not quite familiar with instances of that word "mainstream" being used by our GL. I may of used it once or twice on here but nothing from our leadership or communications using such. So, if it is offensive my most humble apologies to any brothers that I have offended. Peace & Harmony always.


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I doubt that many people even know of this. Just something kinda interesting. I don't look at it as derogatory but I think some on both sides could see it that way. I try to use state gls now. Problem is that it has been used so much, kinda hard to just stop all of a sudden.
 

mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
Maybe not but when it is called the Prince Hall Think Tank, it will to some degree.
People can call a Facebook page whatever they like that doesn't make it legit I can create one for 33 degree Mason's not even being a 33rd so I say again a Facebook group doesn't hold much weight in freemasonry
 

dfreybur

Premium Member
Now I've heard "George Washington lodges" used instead of Mainstream..

As far as I can tell I made that up. With two branches of our family both older than our country, I don't like the idea of thinking they aren't both mainstream. I picked a well known Brother contemporary with Prince Hall and typed in his name in a post at some point before I joined the MyFreeMasonry board.
 

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
People can call a Facebook page whatever they like that doesn't make it legit I can create one for 33 degree Mason's not even being a 33rd so I say again a Facebook group doesn't hold much weight in freemasonry

Maybe you should do some research first. Might learn something. Do PHA grand masters sit in on some of the webcasts of the pages you claim anyone can make up?
 

MRichard

Mark A. Ri'chard
Premium Member
People can call a Facebook page whatever they like that doesn't make it legit I can create one for 33 degree Mason's not even being a 33rd so I say again a Facebook group doesn't hold much weight in freemasonry

I guess you are right. But why would a PHA grand master associate with something like that? You got all the answers. Please explain.

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mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
Looks like these brothers where guest on one of there podcast did you here it from one of the grandmasters and I believe they have a disclaimer at the beginning of the podcast stating the opinions are are solely those of the brethren present and that the don't speak for any particular GL show me a official communication from any regular PH GL that uses the term " mainstream " just because a GM sat in as a guest doesn't make it a official terminology and you stated this was on there Facebook page anyone can post a statement if it's not a closed group I am familiar with their podcast watched a couple don't really care for Facebook groups that are not closed because to many crazies chime in I will check it out for myself and see ,I don't have all the answers just know the difference between a phrase used by some and something official used in communications and you will not see a communication addressing a GL of state from a PH GL stating fraternal greetings mainstream most worshipful GL of (insert state )
 

mrpierce17

KOP Council director / Lodge instructor
Premium Member
Found the page it's not close couldn't find the post in question though
 
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