Warrior1256
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Good one!My sons have a Place Station 3. Does that help?
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Station and Place Questions
- Thread starter Rick Carver
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Let me do some research on that & get back to you. AFAIK, it is part of the floorwork promulgated by our Committee on Work, but I'll see if I can find something written on it. I can cite examples, if that'll help. Under GLoTX, if a Warden or Master needs to leave his station, he hands his jewel to another Brother, who fills the station until the Warden or Master returns. When receiving Grand Lodge officers, while the Brethren form 2 lines between the door & the altar, the Wardens & Master are not to vacate their stations. In the absence of the Master, the SW takes his place, but the JW remains in his station- he does not move up to the SW's station. (That one is in our Law- see below)
Art. 286. Junior Warden: Not Affected: When.
The Junior Warden is not affected by the Senior Warden having to act as Worshipful Master, nor by the absence of the Senior Warden from a meeting at which the Master is present, nor by vacancy in the office of Senior Warden, but retains his station and a pro tempore Senior Warden shall be appointed.
In NM and CA, the furniture of the lodge consists of the three Great Lights. It's the "jewels" that are moveable and immovable.
Not really. With the exception of someone wanting to enter after Opening, the Tyler never speaks.
I checked the Installation, as well; no mention of station or place.
Willys
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I do believe, at a very early point, there is a question directed at the Tiler, to which he responds and is then 'put in his place'.
During the Opening? Not in my neighborhoods.
BroBook
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J.W. might've been the only one that did not move !!!
MarkR
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In most American Lodges, the square, level and plumb are considered immovable jewels because they always stay in the same location (east, west, south) and the rough ashlar, perfect ashlar, and trestle board are considered moveable jewels because they can be placed anywhere. In England, it's the opposite, because the officers jewels move from brother to brother as officers change while the ashlars and trestle board stay in one place.
It is under GLoTX. In the opening of every Lodge, the Tiler is asked where his "place" is, and is then told to go to his "place".
Interesting. I've never seen the Tyler inside the lodge room, or spoken to by anyone other than the JD.
Morris
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During balloting perhaps? I can't remember the verbiage if any after te Tyler votes
Ah, yes, he does get instructions when brought in to ballot, but (in NM) returns to the anteroom without further instruction.
In our opening of every Lodge, he is in the Lodgeroom. He is called to the altar, asked questions by the WM & answers them, and is then ordered without to perform his duties.
Pscyclepath
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Arkansas is different, in that the Tyler is always outside. The Junior Deacon is sent to mak sure he's out there, and close the door. The JD answers the questions otherwise asked of the Tyler.
MarkR
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Same in Minnesota.
Willys
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This is exactly my reference in posts #20 and 25, as practiced by the GLoTexas.
Before any Lodge is open there is no order other than social. The WM gavels and initiates proceedings through which stations, places, and duties become identified, and others vouched.
dfreybur
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That's how the opening happens in 2 of my 3 jurisdictions. Texas is different (That could be a tautology, chuckle) in this detail. The JD work got moved the the TL in this case.
Bloke
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Somewhere someone asked a question on this recently but I can't find it
Looking at the Baltimore Convention,
Under the title "Immovable Jewels" Dr. Mackey's Lexicon says:
"According to the old system in England, the immovable jewels of the Lodge are the Rough Ashlar, Perfect Ashlar and Trestle Board; but in this Country, by the decision of the Baltimore Convention, in 1843, they are made to consist of the Square, Level and Plumb."
Source http://www.themasonictrowel.com/masonic_talk/stb/stbs/36-01.htm
MarkR
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Correct; and the square, level, and plumb are considered movable because they are passed from brother to brother when the offices change hands.
dfreybur
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I find it odd that a convention that changed Stated meetings to the third degree would also make this particular change that is associated with a different degree.